{"id":8082,"date":"2020-01-26T08:17:42","date_gmt":"2020-01-26T12:17:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?p=8082"},"modified":"2020-01-27T10:21:27","modified_gmt":"2020-01-27T14:21:27","slug":"the-best-ways-to-talk-about-the-family-money","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?p=8082","title":{"rendered":"The Best Ways To Talk About The Family Money"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<header class=\"css-1eurlhz euiyums4\">\n<div class=\"css-79elbk\" data-testid=\"photoviewer-wrapper\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?attachment_id=6898\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-6898\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6898\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?attachment_id=6898\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/download.png?fit=240%2C210&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"240,210\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"download\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/download.png?fit=240%2C210&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/download.png?fit=240%2C210&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-6898 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/download.png?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>Sibling relationships can be a delicate dance, and when money gets tossed into the equation, they can get prickly.<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"meteredContent css-1r7ky0e\">\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">For\u00a0Thomas Lloyd, 43, and his brother\u00a0Stacy B. Lloyd IV, 42, it has been a journey that began with long-ago favoritism by their grandmother\u00a0Rachel Mellon\u00a0of\u00a0Upperville, Va., (known as Bunny) who was married to Paul Mellon, the art patron and philanthropist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Mrs. Mellon, who was 103 when she died in March 2014, had arranged that, after funeral expenses were paid and items specified in her will distributed, any remains of her estate would go to the Gerard B. Lambert Foundation, a philanthropic and grant-making nonprofit named for her father. Though her two grandsons received equal inheritances, complications arose when they were given the opportunity to guide the foundation, along with their father, Stacy Lloyd III, who died in 2017.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Thomas said that during their childhood, Stacy, the younger sibling, received more attention from their grandmother, or Granbunny, as they called her. But Thomas, who is a certified financial planner and wealth adviser at\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hemingtonwm.com\/our-team\/thomas-lloyd-cfp\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hemington Wealth Management<\/a> in Falls Church, Va., now presides as president over the foundation, overseeing about $80 million in assets. His brother \u2014 who would not comment for this article except to say he was glad their story was being shared \u2014 is a director.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">The brothers never had a close relationship, and trying to work together to make the required charitable donations from the foundation\u00a0strained it, according to Thomas. He said his younger brother did not return phone calls. Deadlines were missed. Frustration and resentment mounted.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/11\/06\/your-money\/family-money-discussions.html?action=click&amp;module=RelatedLinks&amp;pgtype=Article\">Click here to read story on The New York Times<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">This happens when siblings cannot talk about money, or when one family member is supposed to be overseeing a financial obligation that involves all the siblings and the communication is shut down, said\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/jamesgrubman.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">James Grubman<\/a><a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/jamesgrubman.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">,<\/a>\u00a0a psychologist and founder\u00a0of\u00a0FamilyWealth Consulting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cHe was unreliable,\u201d Mr. Lloyd said.\u00a0\u201cI would send emails, \u2018I need your thoughts\u00a0on this specific issue, or a decision about grant distributions,\u2019 and he would never meet those deadlines,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">There are so many emotional aspects for siblings when it comes to financial dealings, Mr. Grubman said: \u201cParents or grandparents often never spend any time preparing adult children for what is coming ahead. This is usually built upon fear. Fear of entitlement. Fear of demotivating a beneficiary.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">While money issues may appear to be the cause of sibling angst, they are usually about far more than that, experts say. Money is often how we keep a tally of love, approval and fairness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cA common pitfall is when there has been a history of favoritism among siblings,\u201d Mr. Grubman said. \u201cThat is a big recipe for disaster. When Mom and Dad or grandparents have played favorites, or never communicated and pushed this down to the next generation, the legacy of conflict is more important than the inheritance.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">The money may get passed on, Mr. Grubman said, \u201cbut it travels with all the family dynamics, the resentments, the jealousies, the favoritism, the avoidance of conflicts, and that\u2019s the real inheritance that siblings have to deal with.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"><\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-79elbk\" data-testid=\"photoviewer-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"css-z3e15g\" data-testid=\"photoviewer-wrapper-hidden\">It turns out that less than 10 percent of adult siblings in the United States discuss money on a regular basis, according to an <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ameriprise.com\/retirement\/insights\/ameriprise-research-studies\/family-wealth-study\/siblings-and-money\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ameriprise Financial Family Wealth Checkup<\/a>\u00a0study. And when they do talk, the most common topic is how\u00a0<em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">other\u00a0<\/em>family members handle their finances\u00a0(58 percent).<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">The survey of\u00a0about 2,000\u00a0Americans\u00a0ages 25 to 70\u00a0showed that nearly\u00a070 percent\u00a0of sibling money disagreements focused on issues like how an inheritance is divided, which child provides more support for their parents and whether parents are fair in their financial support of the children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Beyond these disagreements, other topics that cause sibling quarrels include different money values or spending habits, varying levels of income, and issues involving repaying money.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">The good news:\u00a061 percent\u00a0of all siblings will talk through their financial differences, although only a fraction of issues are settled as a result of\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.ameriprise.com\/archive\/research-studies-archive\/ameriprise-study-siblings-rarely-argue-about-money-but-when-they-do-its-about-their-parents.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the talk<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Many parents either believe, or are told by their lawyers,\u00a0that they should not tell\u00a0the children anything about a future foundation, family trust or inheritance, Mr. Grubman said. He added that it is like a quarterback who is going to throw the ball to a receiver.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">That is essentially what estate planning is about, Mr. Grubman said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cThe football is the money,\u201d he said. \u201cNinety percent of the attention is spent on where the quarterback wants to throw it, when, and what his intentions are. The biggest flaw in the whole system is nobody prepares the receiver. In fact, they say don\u2019t tell them that it\u2019s coming.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">For the Lloyd brothers, the\u00a0worsened communication breakdown\u00a0in many ways stemmed from a lack of preparation for the \u201cfootball,\u201d as Mr. Grubman called it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cWhen my grandmother passed away, no one ever explained how the legal and estate works in relation to the foundation\u2019s assets, or what kinds of organizations we could make grants to,\u201d Thomas Lloyd said. \u201cStacy didn\u2019t want to ask questions because he didn\u2019t want to sound stupid, so he stepped away.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Sibling issues can be the fallout from the family dynamics, Mr. Grubman said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cIt is distrust,\u201d he said. \u201cThat tends to be compounded by parents and grandparents who avoid communication and leave their children a legacy of suspicion. It gets played out among the siblings.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"story-ad-4-wrapper\" class=\"css-1r07izm\">\n<div id=\"story-ad-4\" class=\"ad story-ad-4-wrapper\" data-google-query-id=\"CIrHq9KcoecCFQO1yAoddOQEKA\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/29390238\/nyt\/yourmoney_7__container__\">When siblings are left to figure this out on their own, many of them often do not know where to start, and if there is a past dispute hidden away, it can complicate things, said Amy Castoro, a family wealth coach and president and chief executive of <a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.thewilliamsgroup.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the<\/a><a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.thewilliamsgroup.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u00a0Williams Group<\/a>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cSibling resentment can go all the way back to \u2018Dad didn\u2019t go to my games, but he did yours,\u2019\u201d she said. \u201cAnd the kids often have different interpretations of each other than a parent or grandparent might realize. So if one son is designated as the executor of a parent\u2019s estate, the other son or daughter are looking at him saying, \u2018That guy cheated at Monopoly our whole life. Why would I trust this guy now?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">There may also have been an unequal lifestyle growing up. \u201cThe youngest kid is driving the latest BMW the parents bought for her, and the older one had to buy his own first car,\u201d Ms. Castoro said. \u201cThey take that out on each other. These things fester. Wealth becomes a magnifier.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Those background stories must be dealt with in a productive way, not a psychological way, she said. \u201cI encourage families to have these estate planning conversations early on, while Mom and Dad are on this side of the daisies.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">She added that siblings \u201cmust care more about each other than they do about the money.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Most siblings do not understand how to have conversations about money, said\u00a0Thomas\u00a0Lloyd, who now specializes in working on this issue with his clients. \u201cThe biggest obstacle for me was how do I relate with my brother, who is not savvy when it comes to money discussions and not comfortable, and has felt like an outsider looking in.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Finally, last year, the brothers had a breakthrough conversation, which has made working on the foundation personally rewarding for both of them. Thomas asked for input from Stacy before he had to set an agenda for a fall meeting with the fund\u2019s investment managers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Stacy then started asking questions that his older brother had never realized he was wondering about. \u201cIt was a way of venting,\u201d\u00a0Thomas\u00a0said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1fanzo5 StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">The older brother listened.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">\u201cIt was a conversation with my brother that was a recognition that his thoughts matter and were relevant,\u201d Thomas said. \u201cMy idea of the situation was that he just didn\u2019t want to get involved, and I was wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">Lesson learned. \u201cWhen you\u2019re talking about managing money and the family dynamics that are tied into it, everyone needs to have that sense that they matter,\u201d Mr. Lloyd said. \u201cThat to me is the theme of what I see a lot of families, not just my own, go through.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">There are always two sides. Siblings keep sweeping things under the rug \u201cuntil somebody finally trips over the rug,\u201d Ms. Castoro said. \u201cIt\u2019s more about dignity. If I matter to you, why aren\u2019t you calling me?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">For the Lloyds, the aftermath of last year\u2019s\u00a0call\u00a0has been positive. \u201cOnce we had that conversation, it was like I am now a partner with him, instead of him trying to just swim on his own,\u201d Thomas Lloyd said. \u201cIt trickled down into our personal relationship as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-exrw3m evys1bk0\">He added that he was \u201cnot spending every week with my brother now, but it\u2019s at least not a target of stress the way it used to be.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?attachment_id=7908\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7908\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7908\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?attachment_id=7908\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?fit=960%2C960&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"960,960\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ME\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?fit=640%2C640&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-7908 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ME-1.jpg?w=960&amp;ssl=1 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\"><span class=\"css-1baulvz last-byline\">Kerry Hannon<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - http:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"http:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-small.png?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"small\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"The Best Ways To Talk About The Family Money\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While money issues may appear to be the cause of sibling angst, they are usually about far more than that, experts say. 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