{"id":4702,"date":"2015-06-25T06:04:41","date_gmt":"2015-06-25T10:04:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?p=4702"},"modified":"2015-06-25T06:04:41","modified_gmt":"2015-06-25T10:04:41","slug":"what-to-say-in-your-exit-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?p=4702","title":{"rendered":"What to Say in Your Exit Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<header class=\"entry-header\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?attachment_id=2284\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-2284\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2284\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/kerryhannon.com\/?attachment_id=2284\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/next-ave.gif?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"300,300\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"next-ave\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/next-ave.gif?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/next-ave.gif?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2284\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/next-ave.gif?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"next-ave\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/next-ave.gif?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/kerryhannon.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/next-ave.gif?w=300&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>With a robust job market\u00a0percolating along, you may be thinking about changing jobs. (In March 2015, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bls.gov\/news.release\/jolts.nr0.htm\" target=\"_blank\">2.8 million people voluntarily quit<\/a>, up from 2.4 million in March 2014 when the job market was dicier.)<\/header>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<div class=\"resizable\">If you\u2019ll be quitting, you\u2019ll likely be told to go to an exit interview before hightailing it out. I can\u2019t emphasize enough how important it is to do this right. Say the wrong things and you could harm your career if you either want to get a reference from your nearly-ex employer or one day decide you want to come back.I\u2019ll give you a few pointers in a moment, based on my own experience and my interviews with eight career consultants and HR pros who spoke on and off the record.<\/p>\n<p class=\"interruptive-link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nextavenue.org\/exit-interview-dos-and-donts\/\">Read this column on PBS NextAvenue.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"pull-quote\">In three of my exit interviews, my gut urged me to shout, \u201cI\u2019m outta here!\u201d and bare my soul about why I was jumping ship.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve resigned from five jobs during my career, and each time I dreaded the exit interview. In many ways, it was more nerve-wracking than the interview I had before being offered the job. In three exit interviews, my gut urged me to shout, \u201cI\u2019m outta here!\u201d and bare my soul about why I was jumping ship. I fancied that I wanted to help my soon-to-be former colleagues by letting the powers that be know what they\u2019d better fix if they didn\u2019t want to lose more employees like me.<\/p>\n<p>But my head, thankfully, told me to zip my lip. And, boy, am I glad I did. I\u2019m still regularly hired to work as an expert columnist and writer for former employers and bosses from my previous staff positions.<\/p>\n<h3>What HR Wants From an Exit Interview<\/h3>\n<p>In a typical exit interview, an HR employee will ask you to fill out a few forms. Most of the time, HR doesn\u2019t<em> really <\/em>want to hear anything. You\u2019ve resigned. It\u2019s over, done, goodbye. If you <em>do<\/em> say something provocative, that just creates paperwork because your interviewer is obligated to document it.<\/p>\n<p>But you may have the utterly human instinct to \u201cwant to leave the camp site cleaner than when you found it,\u201d as one of my Next Avenue editors put it. She wondered: How do you give constructive criticism to strengthen the organization while expressing frustration or anger without it being taken as sour grapes or bitterness?<\/p>\n<p>My advice: Proceed with caution, or your words can haunt you down the road.<\/p>\n<h3>Closing the Door on a Future Relationship<\/h3>\n<p>Consider this tale I heard from Catherine Allan, 69, a media executive: \u201cWhen I was in my 20s I worked at a very successful record company in the Bay Area,\u201d said Allan. \u201cAfter about three years of working there, my department was downsized and I was suddenly laid off. I told one of the senior leaders what I thought was wrong with the company in very emotional and negative terms and remember leaving his office in a huff. I don\u2019t think I slammed the door physically, but it was in my body language and I certainly closed the door on any future relationship with the company.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Allan now thinks her criticisms did little to improve the corporate culture. \u201cI regretted that exit for years afterwards, especially my rudeness, and it influenced an attitude I have held to firmly ever since: never close doors!\u201d she told me.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nextavenue.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/Maggie-Mistal-Portrait-Embed.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"padding-right alignleft wp-image-24006 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nextavenue.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/Maggie-Mistal-Portrait-Embed.jpg?resize=100%2C110&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Maggie Mistal Portrait Embed\" width=\"100\" height=\"110\" \/><\/a>The \u201cnever close doors\u201d view is wise. During an exit interview, it\u2019s vital that you be pleasant and professional, even if you find that hard to do. Remember \u2014 this could be the last impression you\u2019ll leave your employer with. \u201cOverall, my advice to clients who are preparing for an exit interview is: Good endings make good beginnings,\u201d advised <a href=\"http:\/\/www.maggiemistal.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Maggie Mistal<\/a>, a New York-City based career consultant and executive coach.<\/p>\n<h3>5 Tips for Exit Interviews<\/h3>\n<p>For your next exit interview, follow these five tips:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1. Vent ahead of time, not during the interview.<\/strong> An HR manager doesn\u2019t want to hear, during your exit interview, that you think your manager was a jerk. While it may be irresistible to use the meeting to unload, once you\u2019ve made the decision to leave an employer, airing your gripes won\u2019t do you any good. Your time to talk about concerns was while you were employed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of my clients had so much pent-up frustration as she was leaving a job that she was worried it would boil over in the exit interview,\u201d said Mistal. To avoid this, before the interview, Mistal recommended the woman write a \u201cno-holds-barred\u201d resignation letter to her soon-to-be former boss with painstaking detail about every aspect of the job that caused her to resign. But the letter wouldn\u2019t go to the boss; it would be given to Mistal.<\/p>\n<p>This approach helped the woman privately vent her strong emotions and gave coach and client a chance to turn her concerns into productive, constructive criticism in the exit interview, according to Mistal.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt also gave us a chance to see where <em>she<\/em> was the issue, where her approach to situations made things worse and how she could break those negative patterns going forward,\u201d Mistal recalls.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. Plan and prepare for the session.<\/strong> Take the exit interview as conscientiously as you would an interview for a new job, Mistal advised. In addition to working through your emotions in advance, speak to an objective third party about your issues so you can bring them up in a way that\u2019s of service to the next person who will be in your job, said Mistal.<\/p>\n<p>By framing your opinions to demonstrate that you\u2019re thinking about what\u2019s best for the company, you\u2019ll have a far greater chance of having a real influence and of being remembered well.<\/p>\n<p>Allan, who is preparing to leave another company where she has worked for more than three decades, is planning a new approach this time around. \u201cI feel a responsibility to talk about the very real problem areas,\u201d she told me. \u201cBut having worked here for such a long time, I really want to do it in a constructive \u2018big picture\u2019 way that points to possibilities for doing things differently in the future.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Her exit interview strategy is to \u201cwarn against moving too far away from one of the company\u2019s stated values, which is to treat employees with respect and help each other to succeed,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. Exit with grace by focusing on the positive.<\/strong> If you\u2019re too candid and critical, you\u2019ll come across as being bitter or out to damage someone. \u201cThe challenge is to provide non-emotional feedback,\u201d said Vivian Rank, a consultant for The Society for Human Resource Management. \u201cYou don\u2019t want to rail. That kind of feedback doesn\u2019t get heard.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Companies <em>do <\/em>want to learn ways to improve the workplace culture and how they can keep employees more engaged, she added. \u201cIf you\u2019re leaving for a certain company or a better salary, that\u2019s good information for a company to have, too,\u201d noted Rank.<\/p>\n<p>If you care about the company and want to make a difference, \u201cmake sure your comments are fact-based and professional,\u201d she said. \u201cIn general, most employers want to know what you liked about your job and the company and what you would change if you could. But keep it simple.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Be sure to mention how much you learned there and why both you and the company benefited from your time as an employee. You can also say that you were honored to have been part of the organization and are inspired by their mission and products, if this is true.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s reasonable, though, to say that you felt like your skills weren\u2019t being used completely and to offer examples, if that was the case. And it\u2019s OK to discuss general actions of your manager or a company policy that had an impact on your decision to leave.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4. Provide useful facts.<\/strong> Are you leaving because your salary or benefits were not competitive with the company\u2019s competitors (one of whom you may be headed to)? Were there not enough opportunities for promotion? Employers love competitive data, even if it doesn\u2019t make them look great.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5. Have your own informal exit interviews.<\/strong> If you really want to leave your campsite clean, some of your most effective exit conversations can take place outside of the formal exit interview. As you prepare to clean out your desk and bid adieu, you might consider sharing with staffers (and perhaps your manager) why you felt working there was special. Then, you can casually toss out any practical ideas about how they might improve the work environment based on your experience to make it an even better place to work.<\/p>\n<header class=\"entry-header\">\n<hr \/>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"writer-block\">\n<ul class=\"writer-block-info\">\n<li class=\"writer-block-author\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nextavenue.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/img_expert_kerry.jpg?resize=63%2C63&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Kerry Hannon\" width=\"63\" height=\"63\" \/><span class=\"writer-block-name desktop-only\">By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nextavenue.org\/writer\/kerry-hannon\">Kerry Hannon<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span class=\"writer-block-title desktop-only\">Money &amp; Work Expert<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - http:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"http:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-small.png?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"small\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"What to Say in Your Exit Interview\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With a robust job market\u00a0percolating along, you may be thinking about changing jobs. 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